I was recently asked to do a short interview on the way women experience Christianity. A few months ago I did an interview (a 5-part piece) with Susy from Unmasking the Goddess who passed on my info to author Jonalyn Grace Fincher. Jonalyn was interesting in knowing how I experienced Christianity as a woman and I suppose also as someone who no longer subscribes to the beliefs of the church. I've pasted my responses below. Please feel free to leave comments and get a conversation started.
1- From your experience does Christianity seem to teach that God is male, female, both or neither? What caused you to think this?
A: I believe Christianity teaches that God is male. There is much emphasis placed on concepts like God the Father, Christ the Son, etc. but there have been no concepts surrounding God the Mother until recently. From what I gather that is very commonly not a popular concept with many Christians.
Mary is a positive figure, as the Mother of Christ (God), but she is never deified. Instead she is commonly believed to have been a mortal woman with no divinity of her own. At best she is seen as a saint and her worship is often only found in some denominations. Goddess worshippers believe Mary to be a face of the Goddess.
2- How is following the Goddess more affirming to you than following God?
A: There is a common misconception that all women migrate to Goddess worship because they are not empowered by a male concept of God. I would say in the beginning that this is true for some. Personally I never felt as though I needed empowerment. Instead I saw a concept of God that was more complete for me than a male concept. In short, Goddess makes more sense to me.
I do find the Goddess more affirming but not because I’m a woman. I personally feel she is more affirming for people as a whole. She is a being of balance and completion who teaches equality for all life. Her lessons also encourage her followers to understand that their personal experiences are valid and that those experiences can be a way of connecting with her. No one is told their interpretations of the Goddess are wrong or unworthy. Spirituality is seen as such an individual concept and not everyone requires the same lessons.
3- Does the Christian church seem oppressive to women? If so, can you share any stories?
A: I think at times it can be. Again here, I see that the church can be oppressive to people in general and not just women; teaching them that they are naturally evil and that they need to earn God’s love. I do however find that the lack of female clergy in Christianity is a problem and a testament to the way women have been seen throughout time as vehicles of temptation and evil.
4- What passages/places in the Bible seem to limit women? Are there any Bible passages that seem to value women equally to men?
A: I have pasted a few passages below that paint a less than flattering picture of the way the Bible speaks of women. I realize that during Jesus’ ministry he taught gender equality. He took women into his inner circle, spoke with them as equals (as God’s daughters), and used terminology that implied that women should be seen as no less and no better than men. Unfortunately though, his words are not as direct and to the point as those of the Old Testament. I suppose it would’ve been nice if he had just come out and said it in plain language. I also think it would’ve been nice to see Mary Magdalene given the role of one of Christianity’s founders as she so deserved in my opinion.
1 Corinthians 14:34:
Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says.
Genesis 3:16:
To the woman he said, "I will greatly increase your pains in childbearing; with pain you will give birth to children. Your desire will be for your husband, and he will rule over you."
Isaiah 19:16:
In that day the Egyptians will be like women. They will shudder with fear at the uplifted hand that the LORD Almighty raises against them.
Deuteronomy 22:20-21:
If, however, the charge is true and no proof of the girl's virginity can be found, she shall be brought to the door of her father's house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death. She has done a disgraceful thing in Israel by being promiscuous while still in her father's house. You must purge the evil from among you.
Leviticus 12:1-8:
Numbers 5:12-31
7 comments:
Just stumbled upon your post. Just for clarification are you Christopagan?
Hi Matt! Thanks for stumbling in. :)
Nope, I'm sure not a Christopagan. I'm a Goddess worshipper - which for me means embracing all faces of deity as part of the Goddess. I do NOT however believe in Christianity.
I was baptized a Catholic, then my family converted to Jehovah's Witness for a while. I drifted for a time, searching ... then found the Goddess. It was the only way that truly touched my heart, made my cry with devotion and relief.
Grian,
I'm glad you've been able to use this elsewhere!
And thank you for commenting on my blog. You're input is welcome anytime!
Grace,
Jonalyn
Donna - Amen sister. I know exactly what you feel. I can't imagine any other way for me but Goddess.
Jonalyn - thanks for the open invitation. I will probably take you up on it. :)
Further ... I believe religion aka christianity was created specifically to control the masses in a patriarchial society, i.e., Emperor Constantine. So to me it simply follows suit that women would be subjegated in the process.
D~
Donna - yes, and created out of the mythology of other cultures such as the Egyptians. Horus = Jesus, Isis = Mary...
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